University applications from Bath youngsters down by 18%

“Many of the more valid degrees have been dumbed down to make them accessible to people who are not equipped to do them to the previous standard."

Complete and utter bollux. I compared notes with students from my own country - those who studied there and here. The consensus was that UK was lagging behind, despite having a thousand-fold investment comparatively. Two chinese student doing PhDs in bath told me this:" here, they can't be bothered to give you any guidance but are happy to steal your research if it makes them look good..."

People from the past who have not had their degrees 'dumbed down' have excelled at skills of tax avoidance, outright fraud, blaming those on benefits, war-mongering and accepting criminal activity as normal behaviour. Those are good enough reasons why higher education must never, never, never be as it was before.”

“Moe, the problem lies in the definition of "well educated". Sending everybody off to University to do pointless degrees in useless nonsense that benefits nobody and doesn't even help the student to get useful employment is a complete waste of time and money. Especially if it is being funded by money extracted from people earning low sums of money and struggling to keep their heads above water.

Many of the more valid degrees have been dumbed down to make them accessible to people who are not equipped to do them to the previous standard.

This was the vision of the last Government. Students were then emerging from three year degrees in media studies expecting to walk into well paid jobs, buy a house and live an aspirational lifestyle. And people were emerging from more useful degrees significantly less well prepared than students from other countries and often totally ill equipped to meet the needs and expectations of employers. So education has actually been completely devalued at the alter of political correctness.

Sold a distorted vision of education and work, young people felt it was beneath them to be labourers or plumbers or nurses, so we had to import people by the thousand to do these things.

The whole system of education and work has been completely warped by this warped vision that has done serious harm to our society and our economy. It has to be corrected as a matter of urgency.”

“"but at least the frothing masses will be satisfied that no-one is getting anything at someone else's expense"

The 'frothing masses' are very selective on who they froth about getting something at someone else's expense....”

“The Philistines have taken over the asylum.”

“Regardless of politics, a well-educated workforce is a benefit to the country as a whole. I think it's rather tragic that society has moved away from an appreciation of such intangible benefits in favour of a short-sighted focus on the price of an individual's education.

If you increase the barriers to education, the only possible outcome is fewer educated people. In the grand scheme of things the national jobs market will eventually re-adjust to make use of the workforce available and most people will still have jobs - but this future workforce will be less-well educated, UK PLC will be less innovative and less competitive, we will import more and export less, the overall tax take will be lower, etc etc etc in an inevitable but avoidable downward spiral.

Ho hum. I expect India and China will soon monopolise all the clever stuff and the UK will adopt its rightful place as a reserve of cheap labour....but at least the frothing masses will be satisfied that no-one is getting anything at someone else's expense.

Sigh. Anyone else seen the film Idiocracy?”

“Oh dear timbaker1991...oh deary deary dear. I'm sorry, but, you know and maybe you should totally learn to string a sentence together, sorry, it's just makes no context.”

“timbaker1991

I take it your degree is not English.”

“Sorry but I read this article and thought GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT

I am a 2nd year student, but sorry this is supposed to be a proper news website, and this article is from a "trusted" source, the title reads since fees were "introduced". I'm afraid that is wrong, as is the mention in your article. The numbers you record in your article show you are talking in context since the fees WENT UP not INTRODUCED. Sorry but you have to get these basic facts right otherwise the rest of your news article is worthless as it can not be trusted.”

“So as adults we work, get taxed and pay back our education costs tenfold in some cases. I pay tax for free healthcare and education for my children and everyone elses and in turn so will they.... But only if they have access to the education to ensure they get a good job. Education should be free, scrap trident or something and invest in the kids.”

“Even with a degree these days, there's no guarantee that you'll find work. Far from it, in fact. And with the total costs of getting a degree having gone from £0 in 1998 to about £12-14k/year now, it isn't surprising that people are starting to realise that they are better without that degree in sports science or social policy.”