Death knell for Bath control centre as new Government presses on with fire shake-up
The Government has confirmed it will press ahead with hugely controversial and expensive plans to regionalise fire control arrangements in the West.
It also announced the end of the equally controversial recruitment quotas for fire services yesterday.
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Fire Service Minister Bob Neill promised there would be no more pointless meddling and pledged to cut through red tape and bureaucracy, as he took the axe to regional management boards.
Whitehall says the move will hand power back to local areas, but firefighters continue to say the real difference would come from scrapping the regional control centre.
But the Department for Communities and Local Government (DCLG) confirmed, for the first time since the election, that Labour’s plans to centralise the work of six fire control centres in Taunton, covering a huge swathe of the country from Wiltshire to the Isles of Scilly, will go ahead.
The move sounds the death knell for Avon Fire and Rescue’s control centre at Lansdown on the edge of Bath.
A DCLG spokesman said it was the most “cost-effective” option with the best potential results.
The Fire Brigades’ Union (FBU) accused the coalition of failing to fulfil manifesto promises to scrap centres such as that in Taunton, which is costing the taxpayer £5,000 per day despite standing virtually empty.
Its south west secretary John Drake said: “We want the Government to stop tinkering around the edges, and scrap regional fire control centres, as both parties promised they would in their manifestos. They have abolished the wrong thing.”
The regional centre in Taunton has been described as a white elephant and many firefighters believe closing existing control rooms will put lives at risk because of the loss of local knowledge.
Mr Neill’s decision to end recruitment quotas will reverse a decision that came to epitomise an era where public sector bodies were seen to be obsessed with political correctness.
But the FBU insists he has missed a trick by not scrapping the regional control centre as well. It calculated that, despite not being used as a control centre, the building will cost £430,000 to run between the formation of the new coalition and MPs returning from summer recess.
Mr Drake said: “It has been an absolute fiasco throughout – it has gone through seven years, two governments, and eight fire ministers, and yet we’re still paying.”
A DCLG spokesman said: “The fire control centres are going ahead. The Government has calculated that the best way forward is for contractor EADS to deliver the main system, because it offers the best service and the best value for the taxpayer.”







5 Comments
by James, Bristol
Thursday, July 29 2010, 8:55PM
“Lucy - out of interest, which do you work for?
I spent an afternoon at the Lansdown Control Room last year and 99.9999% of the calls taken used local knowledge on the operators part to get an exact location of the incident.
You mention about calls in the A&S Police area.
Erm, the new Taunton Regional Control Centre will be taking calls from Gloucestershire, Avon, Wiltshire, Devon & Somerset, Dorset & Cornwall. By my reckoning, that's a slightly larger area to cover!”
by Lucy, MSN
Thursday, July 29 2010, 1:05PM
“Philip,
Also, it's a little pointless comparing 1990 to 2010... The systems and data (and officers!) have moved on massively since then....”
by Lucy, MSN
Thursday, July 29 2010, 1:03PM
“I work for them..... Trust me, out of 100 calls, 99.9999 of them we won't have trouble finding them...
It's not the right forum here to go into system and proceedural specifics, but it's generally not a problem..”
by Phillip, Bath
Thursday, July 29 2010, 12:59PM
“Lucy. Where is Nodes Corner, Dry Arches and The Green Lantern in Bath? You may get one or at best two of those locations correct but take my word for it local knowledge IS important and cannot be built up from a desk in another region or town or worse another county. The above were all known to police officers in Bath circa 1977 - 1990? I rang the police on the 999 system from Broadmead in Bristol once and eventually was connected to a police comms room. The person didn't know where Broadmead was and by the time I explained the offender had driven away. From later inquiries I found out that my call had been received in the TAUNTON Police Comms room who didn't even know where Broadmead is. Regional Controlrooms? Local knowledge unimportant? Don't make me laugh!! I suspect you have never used one and all the maps in the world won't make up for that caller who uses a location known locally as Dry Arches et al.”
by Lucy, MSN
Thursday, July 29 2010, 8:11AM
“Start with the fire, then ambulance and finally, the police...
"The regional centre in Taunton has been described as a white elephant and many firefighters believe closing existing control rooms will put lives at risk because of the loss of local knowledge."
Comms for A&S in Bath, Keynsham and Radstock are ran usually from Taunton (and on occasion, Portishead) - are they local? No. Do they have local knowledge? Yes.. you build it up over time and with and massive advances in mapping systems these days, is 'knowledge' really needed...?
GWAS has a control centre for Avon, Wiltshire and Gloucs... does it need 3? Could it ever share with West Country Ambulance?
Do Wilts Police and A&S need their own control rooms? Probably not... Do they evven need their own police forces? Defintely not...”