Congestion forces timetable shake-up
Bus firm First has been forced to allow more time for some of its services in the Bath area to ensure reliability.
Regular traffic congestion between the city and Saltford has been cited as one factor behind changes to services to Bristol and Keynsham.
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First is fine-tuning a raft of services in Bath and Wiltshire from April 4.
Among the routes affected are:
* 13 Foxhill – Bathford, with the timetable changed to allow extra journey time to improve reliability and punctuality.
* X39 Bath – Bristol, with an extra couple of minutes added to journey times Monday to Saturday
* 337 Bath – Keynsham, with journey times increased from Monday to Saturday to improve punctuality.
The 8.01pm Monday to Friday service from Keynsham to Bath will be withdrawn due to low customer use.
On other routes, however, buses will be leaving slightly later to ensure they stick to timetable.
The list of changes is at http://www.firstgroup.com/ukbus/service/Bath_and_Wiltshire_Area.pdf
City MP Don Foster had raised punctuality problems on the 13 service - which goes through Combe Down - with the company.
First has said it will also introduce another regular journey into the 13 timetable cycle.
Mr Foster said: “I am pleased that First have decided to add a vehicle to the 13 route, and I trust this will improve the reliability of the service for passengers.”
Combe Down Councillor Roger Symonds said buses serving many parts of the city were still being held up by congestion in and around Dorchester Street, where new traffic lights have been installed linked to the SouthGate shopping centre.
“The delays to buses in Dorchester Street mean that most cross-city buses are unreliable. Stopping cars from turning right into Dorchester Street might help, but it is important that services are regular to ensure passengers are not kept waiting.”
Meanwhile, another operator, Wessex Connect, was this week fined £12,500 by the official bus regulator, the Traffic Commissioner, for both early and late running services in Keynsham, Yate and Bristol.







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by Paul Wiltshire, Deputy editor
Wednesday, March 17 2010, 3:28PM
“Enough. This is now locked”
by PW, Bath
Wednesday, March 17 2010, 3:26PM
“Dep Ed - what about the constant torrent of abuse from Anil towards Bathionians? To date he has accused me (and others ) of racism, stupidity to name just a few and expressed a desire to 'build a wall around bath'. Yes, he is treated as a joke, but his constant tirades agaisnt my adopted city are unacceptable and I will continue to dispute them (politely).”
by Pete, Chippenham
Wednesday, March 17 2010, 3:13PM
“John,
The Bristol BRT routes are separate to the Greater Bristol Bus Network improvements. The GBBN is to improve key bus corridors with better bus stops, more bus lanes and other bus priority measures. The BRT network will consist of new busways on abandoned rail lines, or completely new stretches combined with on-street bus lanes and traffic light priority to create a system that will emulate tram or light metro standards of service. This will include off-vehicle ticket purchase at stops (which will be more like mini stations than bus stops), and vehicles with at least two doors through which passengers can board and alight. Stop dwell times will therefore be similar to London Underground (a matter of seconds).
A map of the network can be viewed at:
www.travelplus.org.uk/media/175685/3%20rt%20network%20map_090210.pdf
Full details at www.travelplus.org.uk/”
by john, batheaston
Wednesday, March 17 2010, 3:07PM
“Dave
The ¿sense¿ of Roger Symonds¿ comment is the ¿nonsense¿ that led to BANES agreeing to have a new 850+ space car park in the middle of Bath, next to the train and bus station, for the benefit of shoppers whilst claiming that to stop cars coming into Bath you need to provide Park and Ride facilities all around the city. Add to this the fact that the location of the city centre Park and Ride bus stops are no where near the ¿transport hub¿ of the train and bus station only adds to the feeling, once again, that BANES just do not have a joined up plan for transport in this city.
Did you notice the bus routes for the change?
Who would want to go between Keynsham and Bath? Someone who has offices in both locations? Someone who moves staff from office to office in the name of cost savings? Someone whose staff use their cars to visit their Keynsham office from their Bath office and vice versa? Someone who has staff who get 40p a mile plus as a car allowance? Someone who provides their staff with free parking passes? Someone who insist their staff use public transport on company business? Someone who insist that the directors (or councillors perhaps) use public transport on ¿company¿ business (especially one who lives in Saltford and travels to Bath and Keynsham on business)?
Did you know that the Greco-Roman environs of the Grand Duchy of Trowbridge has had a Real Time Passenger Information system for their bus network for some time? I was pleased when it informed me that the next bus along would be a week next Friday.
I think it was going to Frome, Anil”
by anil, sq
Wednesday, March 17 2010, 2:56PM
“Simon London. Yes true. SWtrains did 'adjust' their timetables. As you say, that's an easy get out to avoid compensating for delays.
But there the comparison ends. From the outskirts of Surrey/Berks, SWT run about 3 trains an hour minimum in all directions. In bath, the only trains that run frequently are London ones. To get as far as Frome, it can involve a 2 hour wait and almost an hour journey. Think I can walk from Bath to Frome in less time. Buses used to run hourly some years ago, but someone told me recently there are huge gaps in the evenings.
Paul W - thanks for the info. I did notice a change of look and feel at thisislondon.com
Basing Bath's multiculturalism on the number of foreign students is as transient as they are. However, bath has a black community who have been here for nearly 200 years and other minority communities, who have lived here for less time. One of the universities I have figures for only employs 2.8 per cent of its workforce from minority communities. It's hardly a multicultural city.
Donut - what you class me as is your concern. I'm not offended. I may disagree with everyone's views, but agree with your right to express them.
Cheers!
:-)”
by donut, Weston
Wednesday, March 17 2010, 2:26PM
“Paul Wiltshire
"not to wind up the population of Bath"
Precisely. Anil rarely adds anything positive to a discussion but always manages to slag off Bath and make irrelevant comparisons with other places.
Regulars have learned to ignore him most of the time but new posters take the bait and this leads to responses which clutter up and spoil the flow of the discussion, and probably put people off reading further.
Is it not time to class Anil as a troll (in the internet sense) and limit his contributions?”
by john, batheaston
Wednesday, March 17 2010, 2:14PM
“Simon
As the article says Wessex Connect were fined for running both early and late. I seem to remember that First introduced the ¿65 minute¿ hour into their timetable for the same reason. Now they are to introduce it ¿on the buses¿. Anyone who has the misfortune to be on a London to Bristol train at Chippenham will know that the train can stay there for up to 10 minutes whilst the timetable catches up with the service. Before the introduction of standard time across this country, noon in Bristol was 10 minutes later than in London giving a better chance of achieving the timetable going west than it was going east. Mind you the train driver had to be proficient in the use of a sextant.”
by john, batheaston
Wednesday, March 17 2010, 2:01PM
“¿I live and travel in: South Glos, Surrey Quays, Surrey/Berks Border and Surrey. Sometimes south Wales. Yes, it can be hectic sometimes.¿ Says Anil.
Would you term yourself a traveller?”
by Simon, London
Wednesday, March 17 2010, 1:54PM
“Revising the timetable is not just limited to Bath. Last year South West Trains operating out of Waterloo revised their timetable to 'add' time to train journeys. Commuters experience slightly longer train journeys and SWT meet their targets. The end result is SWT don't have to give a reduction in the cost of a season ticket as the trains now run to time!”
by Jan, Bath
Wednesday, March 17 2010, 1:36PM
“"The rest of it; no jobs, affordable housng or prospects for young people, its inability to attract employers, monoculturalism lack of decent public transport is actually what you'd call "deprived", if this was inner-city London. Strange, the double-standard, isn't it?"
No of the above is true.
Bath has one of the lowest unemployment rates in Britain.
No prospects for young people? Apart from two universities?
monoculturalism? What a stupid thing to say?
There are many different cultures living in Bath! Turkish, Indian, Whites, Blacks, gays, christians, muslims!
The amount of foreign students who live here prove you wrong and ignorant on this.
And as for culture!!! I dont know where you are from but Bath has a rich, fantastic, fabulous cultural grounding that would overshadow many places! Im not even going tlist the cultural benefits of Bath as I only have 4103 characters ledt to type!
Its nothing like a vile inner city suburb of London. THANK GOD!
For starters we have class abd dont carry guns!
A”